Comments on: May 1 and Jewish Immigrants http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/ Progressive Jews & Judaism Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:50:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: ac http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/#comment-73739 ac Tue, 02 May 2006 22:57:47 +0000 http://jewschool.com/?p=10506#comment-73739 I must say, my wife is a French citizen and we have been fighting for her citizenship for a bit. We married here but planned on going to Israel right after the wedding. When our plans changed, we proceeded with applying for citizenship. It is a long and time consuming and sometimes money consuming proccess. If anyone deserves citizenship amnesty I think it is someone in our situation, we have a legal right and a moral right to request such. Would it make sense that those who don't have such rights (ie. illegals) advance on our requests and recieve citizenship before us? Well that's what may happen if these protestors get their way. I must say, my wife is a French citizen and we have been fighting for her citizenship for a bit. We married here but planned on going to Israel right after the wedding. When our plans changed, we proceeded with applying for citizenship.
It is a long and time consuming and sometimes money consuming proccess.
If anyone deserves citizenship amnesty I think it is someone in our situation, we have a legal right and a moral right to request such.
Would it make sense that those who don’t have such rights (ie. illegals) advance on our requests and recieve citizenship before us?
Well that’s what may happen if these protestors get their way.

]]> By: Vicki http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/#comment-73639 Vicki Tue, 02 May 2006 02:16:43 +0000 http://jewschool.com/?p=10506#comment-73639 There is no excuse for illegal immigration. I am a Russian Jewish immigrant, and my family worked hard to get to America. Letting people slide is not an option, be they Mexican, Russian, Aisan, etc. There is no excuse for illegal immigration. I am a Russian Jewish immigrant, and my family worked hard to get to America. Letting people slide is not an option, be they Mexican, Russian, Aisan, etc.

]]> By: Eitan http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/#comment-73518 Eitan Mon, 01 May 2006 18:31:04 +0000 http://jewschool.com/?p=10506#comment-73518 People do not have an 'inalienable' right to move to any country they want. Every country has a right to decide who may enter and who may not. If someone has broken the law to enter the country, and they cannot claim refugee status because very few of them are refugees, the only 'right' they have is to be humanely deported to their country of origin without any physical harm being done to them. You are certainly right that some immigration laws are immoral, but requiring Mexicans and Russians (Jewish or not) who have no moral or other 'right' to immigrate to the US to go through the process (as obnoxious and grueling as it surely is) does not seem immoral to me. The US cannot maintain an utterly porous border, and security, and have control over the number of immigrants DESIRED by the country to supplement the workforce. People do not have an ‘inalienable’ right to move to any country they want. Every country has a right to decide who may enter and who may not. If someone has broken the law to enter the country, and they cannot claim refugee status because very few of them are refugees, the only ‘right’ they have is to be humanely deported to their country of origin without any physical harm being done to them.

You are certainly right that some immigration laws are immoral, but requiring Mexicans and Russians (Jewish or not) who have no moral or other ‘right’ to immigrate to the US to go through the process (as obnoxious and grueling as it surely is) does not seem immoral to me. The US cannot maintain an utterly porous border, and security, and have control over the number of immigrants DESIRED by the country to supplement the workforce.

]]> By: Mistergoat http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/#comment-73454 Mistergoat Mon, 01 May 2006 13:23:45 +0000 http://jewschool.com/?p=10506#comment-73454 <i> The united states had laws it must enforce. </i> And when those laws are not practical, it will be impossible to enforce them. And when they are not just, it is unjust to enforce them. Both situations are true here. As the descendant of immigrants, some of whom fudged their documents to excape persecution (and would thus be considered "illelgal" today, I am proud to stand with immigrants on this May Day. The united states had laws it must enforce.

And when those laws are not practical, it will be impossible to enforce them. And when they are not just, it is unjust to enforce them. Both situations are true here. As the descendant of immigrants, some of whom fudged their documents to excape persecution (and would thus be considered “illelgal” today, I am proud to stand with immigrants on this May Day.

]]> By: formermuslim http://jewschool.com/2006/04/30/10506/may-1-and-jewish-immigrants/#comment-73404 formermuslim Mon, 01 May 2006 10:00:38 +0000 http://jewschool.com/?p=10506#comment-73404 The united states had laws it must enforce. No other country in the world would agree to what you want the US to agree to. As for the russian Jewish immigrants. I guess the fine mess of the Israeli wellfare state left them no choice. Create a problem, demand a solution. The united states had laws it must enforce. No other country in the world would agree to what you want the US to agree to.

As for the russian Jewish immigrants. I guess the fine mess of the Israeli wellfare state left them no choice. Create a problem, demand a solution.

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