Great Opportunity for Leftist Hecklers
Ari Fleischer will be speaking at the Park East Synagogue (164 E. 68 St. between Lexington & 3rd Ave.) tomorrow at 6:30 PM. Go give him what fer!
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I’m a democrat and i dont think that heckling a former white house spokesperson in a synagogue would be the right thing to do.
i’m an anarchist and i think heckling a kapo who thinks he’s hot shit is always the right thing to do
I’m a Republican and saw Ari Fleischer speak at the annual Federation dinner where I live, so I imagine he spends a decent amount of his time trying to help raise millions of dollars for charities that support both Jews and non-Jews regardless of their politics. That’s called being a mensch, not a capo.
when you help a nazi’s grandson plan an oil war, that’s not being a mensch
Just to remind y’all:
Just because we blog something, that doesn’t necessarily mean we agree with it… By all means, be critical. But please be civil and respectful towards us, and one another, as you participate in this dialogue. Thank you.
Mobi, why dont you wait until you hear what he has to say before disagreeing with it. Someone who runs an internet blog shouldnt be so closed minded.
i don’t think i’m closedminded; and i get what he’s saying. but just because a person throws around money or helps raise money doesn’t do away with the evil they’ve committed. you can’t buy your avayrahs away.
By all means, be critical. But please be civil and respectful towards us, and one another, as you participate in this dialogue. Yes — I think that’s the point here.
Go give him what fer! and i think heckling a kapo who thinks he’s hot shit is always the right thing to do kind of miss that point.
“Kapo”?? Fuck.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/8/12559/73819
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/2002/12/000166.html
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/5-22-03/discussion.cgi.16.html
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/helenthomas/2322189/detail.html
What do you mean , Geroge Bush’s grandfather was a nazi?
http://www.john-loftus.com/bushharriman.asp
Mobi wrote in previous post:
“Demonize a woman much? Ampersand has a nice post here on “The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney.” Hell, the best Frontpage could do is point at her dad.”
Now writes:
“when you help a nazi’s grandson plan an oil war, that’s not being a mensch.”
Personally, I dont hold a person responsible for the sins of his father. You, on the other hand, seem only to hold people responsible for their parents actions when it suits you leftist agenda. This is another example of you not being intellectually honest.
Mobius, I don’t know what the parade of links is intended to show — there’s no accompanying text.
If the message is that a useful way to criticise Ari Fleischman is to call help a “kapo”, or that disagreeing with Bush is made stronger by pointing at a Bush grandfather who (like the grandfathers of millions and millions of Germans) was a member of the German Nazi party — I just don’t see it.
Sorry, but I think Reb Yidlicious is right. Criticise Bush; disagree with Fleischer; calling them names or pointing and laughing at their ancestry doesn’t exactly make the criticism more convincing.
(Alternative: you could always change the blog name to “Jewgarten”, and let the name-calling roll…)
ya know .. it did just start out as a joke ..
Indeed. No need to go all Ann-Coulter on them. There’s plenty of logic, reason, and fact to mount a steady and credible opposition.
“Personally, I dont hold a person responsible for the sins of his father. You, on the other hand, seem only to hold people responsible for their parents actions when it suits you leftist agenda. This is another example of you not being intellectually honest.”
jimbo, it is intellectually dishonest to suggest that i’m holding george bush accountable for the crimes of his grandfathers. i’m holding bush personally accountable for using the same tactics the nazis employed in “agenda setting” and pointing to his grandfathers to show that such nazism runs in the family. familial precedence, call it.
let’s take a poll: who here was quick to label mel gibson a maniac because of his father’s hysterical antisemitism?
“jimbo, it is intellectually dishonest to suggest that i’m holding george bush accountable for the crimes of his grandfathers. i’m holding bush personally accountable for using the same tactics the nazis employed in “agenda setting” and pointing to his grandfathers to show that such nazism runs in the family. familial precedence, call it. ”
There is a far greater “familial precedence” in the case of Mckinney, who is known for sharing many of the same views as her father. So under your logic, it should be ok to use the father to criticize mckinney, yet you seem to have a problem when people did just that. And there lies the inconsistency.
I guess the real point I was trying to make is that there are enough real anti-Semitic parents to make fun of (like Mel Gibson’s father) before we take up space criticizing our own people – especially those who actually do some little amount of good in this world.
Just to show I have a sense of humor, I saw this is in an article referring to Ronald Reagan’s death:
“Perhaps, the custodians of Bitburg should erect a cenotaph for Reagan on those chilly grounds, if the Earth in Simi Valley refuses to receive his corpse.”
Even I have to admit that the imagery is kind of amusing, even if it does insult a dead man. It gets the point across more vividly than if the author had just called Reagan a Nazi.
How was the heckling?