Tell The UN To Stop Ignoring Palestinian Attacks On Civillians
Within the next 48 hours, Jews worldwide will be sending email messages to the United Nations, the EU Parliament and the EU Court of Justice with the identical message that is on this email.
Please take a quick moment to copy the message below and paste it on to a new email that should be sent to the email addresses listed below:
[email protected] – United Nations
[email protected] – EU Parliament
[email protected] – EU Court of Justice
[email protected] – EU Monitoring Centre on Racism and XenophobiaMessage:
When Israel builds a fence to keep out terrorists, the UN and EU are up in arms because it makes it difficult for terrorists to kill more Jews.
When terrorists shoot (point blank!) an 8-month-pregnant Jewish woman and her 4 little girls, there is absolute silence from your organizations. If you think your indifference goes unnoticed, count the number of messages you will receive world-wide in the next 48 hours on this subject.
Respectfully,
Yeah, I’m a lefty, and I’m no fan of the fence. But I’m less a fan of double standards, so I’m writing in…
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I will write to the UN, but will exclude the line about the fence. If Israel really cared about the security of its citizens, it would have built the fence on the green line, not in the form of ghettoes.
Build the fence on Israeli land, not on land stolen from the Palestinians and do not use the fence to legitimise theft by creating “facts on the ground”. Do that, and I will write to the UN to support the construction of a fence.
And when the Settlers have pulled out of land that they have stolen, I will also write to condemn the murder of civilians: not just Israelis but Israelis and Palestinians.
What would you do if somebody moved into your back garden, chopped down your trees and then beat you up when you were uppity enough to protest? Would you accept that because I am damned if I would.
One other thing: let all sides of the story be told – as it should be in a democratic state:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=442123&contrassID=1&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
Jerry-
“And when the Settlers have pulled out of land that they have stolen, I will also write to condemn the murder of civilians: not just Israelis but Israelis and Palestinians.
What would you do if somebody moved into your back garden, chopped down your trees and then beat you up when you were uppity enough to protest? Would you accept that because I am damned if I would. ”
I think it quite odd that you value property more than you do human life.
I actually got this about a month, well, make that early May when the Hatuels were so visiously killed. The email was exactly the same – got it from a jewish women’s list. I sent it immediately when I got it. Certainlty wouldn’t hurt to do it again. Speaking of the UN, here’s an interesting story …
http://tinylink.com/?XM7Gnwkrih
(hope it works!)
jerry – condemning the attack on civilians and even soldiers should not have to do with anything. its just wrong to kill civilians in any case.
jerry, please use tinylink when posting lengthy urls.
also, i’m with jimbo on this one. if i ran a fence through your backyard, is that a justified reason to shoot my wife and four children in the face?
All together now….Israel is a NATION, a member-state of the UN. Israel is using its power as a state to build the wall that will put all of the illegal settlements on “Israeli” land, and leave many Palestinians without any accessible sources of water.
The bastards who shot that mom, who lived in one of those settlements, on the other hand, are basically STATELESS. They probably live in refugee camps. They are NOT a member-state of the UN. The murder of that family was NOT a state activity.
Of course the actions are both horrendous, but the UN’s position in the second case is quite different.
if the pna has the capacity to act on behalf of the stateless palestinian people to negotiate peace, why do they not have the authority to represent their people before the u.n.? why can’t the u.n. place the burden upon the p.a. to clamp down on the murdering of civillians?
They are NOT a member-state of the UN. The murder of that family was NOT a state activity. Of course the actions are both horrendous, but the UN’s position in the second case is quite different.
Huh? The world (well, international law) isn’t split into the simple state-nonstate binary. If it were, there would be no PA, and Israeli incursions into Palestinian territories wouldn’t be “incursions”.
In the case of Palestine, the UN has designated it as a country-in-waiting; while the waiting goes on, Palestinians are officially represented at the United Nations by the PA, which as the PLO had a special observer status at the UN, and as the PA have an even more particular status.
You can learn more about it the palestine-un.org Web site, which notes: On 7 July 1998, the General Assembly overwhelming adopted resolution 52/250 entitled: Participation of Palestine in the work of the United Nations. The resolution conferred upon Palestine additional rights and privileges of participation that had previously been exclusive to Member States.
The murder of that family was NOT a state activity. No, Mobius is correct: the PA is responsible for the activities of its citizens. That’s the point of the limited sovereignty it currently enjoys under the Israeli occupation. In this case, it seems to me that the specific fault is with the Palestinian police, which didn’t do its job — or, if it’s part of a repeated pattern of the PA not clamping down on its citizens’ illegal murder, then the fault is with the PA, which is violating international law.
But, then, the corrupt and relatively fascist PA’s refusal to clamp down, and in fact its active aiding and abetting of illegal terrorist groups, is a continuing violation of international law that has been going on for quite a while. The UN doesn’t seem to care very much. That, it seems to me, is the point of the e-mail campaign.
Lots of ignorance here, lots of ignorance.
‘green line’, ‘palestinian land’, accepting Israel’s right to exist, peace, whatever…
I don’t believe in the fence either. There is already one on the Jordan river dividing mandatory Palestine in two. The Jews already gave up ‘Trans-Jordan’.
The fence was built to deflect attention from the real issue and that is pan-Arab refusal to accept Jewish sovreignty over Israel or even within the ‘green-line’. The fence didn’t stop any suicide bombers (since they always came through the main highways anyways!), killing the terrorist leaders did, especially Yassin and Rantissi. The fence is costing a few billion dollars, while a few hellfire missles cost less than $100 000 each at bulk rates.
Please be reminded, Jerry, Asaf and Mobius too, that when anyone talks about ‘occupation’, they really mean ALL of Israel, NOT mountainous, resourceless Yesha that they couldn’t care less about.
Josh,
lets follow your logic – you dont believe that an occupation exists (even sharoon does) – do u what to append (is that the correct word?) the territories to Israel? what will happen to the palestinians? will they have a right to vote?
Josh,
The Saudis put a plan on the table and one of the items in that plan was recognition of Israel. Sharon took the first steps to blow it off the table when he went on his deliberately provocative walk about on Temple Mount. The rest was done by an over reaction to the resultant Palestinian protests.
Mobius, thanks for the reminder about short links and will do.
Asaf,
Yes it is wrong to kill civilians, full stop end of story. Did you see the latest figures in todays Haaretz?
Jimbo,
I do not support poperty more than human life. But the taking of the property is the first step. Protest against that leads to violence and then escalates to killing.
But having said that, if you rely on your olives to earn money to feed your family and access to water to keep body and soul together, then the line between property and life is a very fine one.
Mobius, those in the PA who want to clamp down on violence would have had a far easier time of it had Israel not promoted Hamas as a way of breaking up the Palestinian political power structure – such as it was.
jerry — i agree completely. but the actions of the israeli government do not justify the actions of palestinians against israeli civillians. the israeli civillians were just as outraged by some of their government’s actions as the palestinians were.
First off,
Sharon does not represent the right or national camp anymore when he starts implementing the exact plans he ridiculed Mitna about in the first place.
Sharon, has hijacked the likud, should call new elections, and form another party if he thinks there’s an ‘occupation’.
Second,
please don’t avoid the issue. Occupation means all of Israel, never just Judea, Samaria, and Gaza that the Jews/Israelis/world like to believe.
Would I like to annex Yesha to current State of Israel land? Yes, eventually, but doing so immediately is a wrong idea. I do not believe in instant gratification and/or instant ‘now’ solutions and FWIW, I do not have all the answers either.
Immediately preceding Sept 2000 when the ‘Palestinians’ started the war, 97% of their population was under PA rule. There were no checkpoints or roadblocks. There were no ‘incursions’ or houses being destroyed. AND Israelis (me included) shopped and traveled freely in Area A and B. The ‘occupation’ was virtually over.
Jerry,
The Saudi plan was forced on the Saudis by the Bush administration after 9/11. The Saudi plan was a crappy plan, but at least it finally showed a willingness on the Arab’s part to budge. Perhaps it recognized Israel, but only on the condition that it retreat from all of Yesha, and accept a ‘few’ Palestinian refugees.
Jerry,
you seem like a rationale guy, so if I walk into your house without permission (not the best analogy I admit), does that give you the right to kill my wife and children? Give the Arabs more credit and demand that they be a bit more civil with non-Muslims.