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Ok, here we go…and relating it to this week’s shabot subject…
If anyone had any doubt about grandson Ghandi’s intentions and whether he might talk true peace ideas and not just spew the regular anti-Israel propaganda well, it seems that he is also incapable of transcending this boundary.
http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-52900-00.html?tag=23-51-22
For all the non-Hebrew readers, Ghandi is calling for ‘Palestinian’ ‘refugees’ in Jordan to start marching toward Israel. He suggests that even if Israel kills 200 of these ‘peace’ marchers, the world will wake up to the cause. Then Avneri found it hard to transcend his anti-semitic boundaries and suggested to the crowd that it is easy for a suicide bomber to cross the fence.
This is somewhat tangential, but I feel very much like sharing this. Last night my friends and I stayed up all night putting things down our throats and eventually, up our noses. At 7 in the morning someone suggested a trip to the massage parlor to compensate for the distinct lack of ass suffered on the night out. At the massage parlor, which was an umistakable whorehouse, there were 3 young Hasidim. 2 looked not a day over 18 and one was in his early 20s. They were waiting for their friend who was, how do you say this diplomatically?…Still fucking a whore. I later spoke about them to the prostitutes, and found that they, and many other members of their community (This is in the Bay Ridge Area) frequent the joint. Many of these guys are older and married. Aside from the surprise of seeing them there, what struck me is this question that I found asking myself. Why would you prescribe to a set of rules only to break it, in what are reportedly large numbers?
“Why would you prescribe to a set of rules only to break it, in what are reportedly large numbers?”
Used to hear the same thing about Chassidim re: beating their wives, etc., etc. And then I worked for JFS. Almost any social issue that the Chassidic community may be guilty of…the non-Chassidic Jewish community engages in 3-4 x’s as much.
“..and many other members of their community (This is in the Bay Ridge Area) frequent the joint. Many of these guys are older and married.”
And you base this data i.e. “many”, on what exactly? An informal convo with a prostitute? You see, judging by the news, 95% of priests fuck young boys. But the stats are probably closer to 000001%. Anyhoo, try spending a Shabbat with a Chassidic family. My experience…in Mea Shearim, Calgary, Montreal and Vancouver, is that they are wonderful, warm people.
“My experience…in Mea Shearim, Calgary, Montreal and Vancouver, is that they are wonderful, warm people.”
Just don’t get into a landlord-tenant dispute with them. Then you’ll see how wonderful, warm and full of rachmounes they are.
Schtreimel,
You missed a key point. I’m not advocating this behavor (merely engaging in it). But these people supposedly adhere to a higher standard. And of course my data is only reliable as far as you can throw a 110 lb russian whore. This wasn’t a pew poll. It’s a question I raised. So calm down a little, that horse might be a tad too high.
Mordachizzle…what are you doing in there? Why are you treating yourself so badly? Instead of focusing on others, try a little self healing and figure out why in the world you would stay up all night doing nefarious things to your body and soul Why do you really care if there are some messed up chasidim there? G-d only cares about you, and what you are going to do with your life, not what you see others doing with their lives. That is between them and the Big Guy. Of course if you do not think that there is a Big Guy, and that you are free to do whatever you want because what that hell, then I have something more to say…you wouldnt give a hoot what the chasisim are doing there. You see your reaction to their seeming hypocrisy is proof that you subscribe to their being morality and a G-d. You just cant face this fact and numb yourself with booze, drugs, and sex. Happy New Year, time for a change brother.