"Regrets, I had a few"
The following piece has landed in my mailbox*:
Europe Died in Auschwitz
“I was walking along Raval (in Barcelona) when all of a sudden I understood that Europe died with Auschwitz. We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims!
We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create.
We burnt the people of the world, the one who is proclaimed the chosen people of God.
Because it is the people who gave to humanity the epic figures who were capable of changing history (Christ, Marx, Einstein, Freud…) and who represent the origin of progress and wellbeing.
We must admit that Europe, by relaxing its borders and giving in under the pretext of tolerance to the values of a fallacious cultural relativism, opened its doors to 20 million Muslims, often illiterates and fanatics that we could meet, at best, in places such as Raval, the poorest of the nations and of the ghettos, and who are preparing the worst, such as the 9/11 and the Madrid bombing and who are lodged in apartment blocs provided by the social welfare.
We also have exchanged culture with fanaticism, the capacity to create with the will to destroy, the wisdom with the superstition. We have exchanged the transcendental instinct of the Jews, who even under the worst possible conditions have always looked for a better, peaceful world, for the suicide bomber.
We have exchanged the pride of life for the fanatic obsession of death. Our death and that of our children.
What a grave mistake we made!”
—By Sebastian Villar Rodriguez September 23, 2005
I am not sure current Israeli politics can stand proud in the transcendental light of looking for a peaceful world, and it makes me ponder the inherent human capacity to turn shades of gray to black and white banality. Admittedly, there is an authentic reflection in this article which is touching – and long due. Alas, even though the fault line in the reasoning is human, it is nevertheless tragic. Mostly, people don’t ‘exchange’ consciously – they do not choose with foresight. If we did, maybe things would have looked different. I find it disturbing to think that the author does not see the danger in lamping 20 million people into one fanatical and unforgiving mass. The same small-mindedness that allowed Europe to descend into the moral abyss 60 years ago, drives the Madrasas and hate-mongering preachers in the mosques today. One could argue that Islam is at the crucial crossroad of proselytizing mono-culture and aspiring diversity (proselytizing aside, a passage through which indeed Judaism is undergoing too, even on the pages of sites such as this one); one could – indeed should – further ask whether the Islamic world is undergoing this necessary transition fast enough to facilitate a more human and peaceful century then the last one. But it would be dull in the least, if not daft, to conclude that all Muslims live by the ‘will to destroy’ – even if such muse it is driven by a prick of the conscience with regards to guilts of the past, there is no relief in perpetuating a myth of cultural inferiority. People are people, and they choose as wisely as their resources afford them a broader view. “If you think education is expensive, you should try ignorance” said one of the Jews this journo laments about (Einstein). Europe has proven itself a resurrection success story to a remarkable degree considering civilized history of ongoing tribal animosity culminating n two world wars. It would be pity to see lessons learned disappear under a new wave of fear driven dichotomy.
*I tried to locate the origins of the article but found myself looping through cross posting ad nauseum, so ardent purveyors of cyber decorum forgive me.
I’m glad Europe is dying. The Torah promises to destroy the wicked people who mocks G_d and His ways and this is exactly what is happening, caught in their vanity they refuse to bring children into this world. Caught in their wickedness they worship Hollywood and their plastic soul-less empty culture.
We have the great Hilltop Youth as a future. may Hashem bless them.
I liked my firsr look at “jew school”
I have found a small cyber sanctuary inwhich I can indulge my inner need to philosophize with like minded people. Where else can jews go to express how they feel about the world around them which still refuses to see just how important we are to the cultural balance of the universe.
i like yishai’s home page. my favorite educational part was learning how “arab muslim nazi money controls the israeli media.”
you can find people who believe absolutely anything out there in the world, and you don’t even have to look that hard.
I find it repulsive for anyone who practices the Jewish Religion to think they are better than anyone else. How could anyone think that? What really surprises me are those who claim Judaism is a race! Is that not subtle racism? Yishai how can you say Europe is dying when their economy is stronger than ever? How could you promote such words? Yes it was horrible what happened in Nazi Germany, but one must understand history in why it had to happen.
The Jewish people of the time owned a majority of the banks, gave special treatment to only those who were Jewish and put the German people in poverty. National Socialism only wanted peace and equality for the producing man while the Jewish religion only wanted equality for his own kind rewarding usury. It even took Hitler to pass a law to make Kosher butchers give animals anesthetic because previously they’d slit their throats and let it bleed consciously on the floor. There is evidence that this has been going on in the US even today.
I do not advocate violence, hatred or the arrogance of any race or religion superiority over another. I do advocate the punishment of any group of people who think they are better than everyone else or give special financial treatment because they are in the same clique.
“I find it repulsive for anyone who practices the Jewish Religion to think they are better than anyone else… I do not advocate violence, hatred or the arrogance of any race or religion superiority over another. I do advocate the punishment of any group of people who think they are better than everyone else “
I’m not sure how some people avoid getting whiplash from their own two-facedness, but anyway… Pesch-Moses, if you don’t advocate racism and group superiority, don’t lump Jews into one evil “oppressor” category. Good grief, the “Jews-made- Germany-poor” delusion is the exact reason that the Holocaust happened in the first place.
Jews, as a group, do not “think they are better than everyone else.” And Yishai also, stereotyping other Jews as soulless Hollywood worshippers. No group of people is perfect; no group of people is evil. Why can’t people just cultivate their own garden and shut the hell up? Will we never learn??
“Will we never learn??”
Probably not. Especially if works such as the Talmud keep preaching how evil us Gentiles are.
“Good grief, the “Jews-made- Germany-poor” delusion is the exact reason that the Holocaust happened in the first place.”
And how was that a delusion? I am open-minded enough to change my outlook if you can show some evidence Jewish people didn’t own a majority of banks and invented interest.
You know you’ve hit the big time when nazis start visiting your site.
I wouldn’t be too hasty with your confidence. When did I say I was a Nazi? In fact my ancestors on my father’s side were English Jews (hence the Moses). I am only stating facts so don’t be so sensitive like a Zionist. All I am asking for is someone to show me evidence (written or visual) that these were lies! Tell me if I am wrong about this:
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U…
“While Jewish law forbids the charging of interest to another Jew, Jews are not forbidden to charge interest on transactions to non-Jews.”
Deuteronomy 23:20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
i’d wager pesch-moses is actually right-wing nut pretending to hold such absurd positions to drive people in the opposite direction.
really classy of you.
Pesch-Moses,
You wrote that Jews,
“put the German people in poverty.”
Are you kidding? That was from the Versailles Agreement of WWI.
As for usury, if you feel that all are entititled to interest free loans, go and give it to them. For most of us, the struggle is accessing capital, something the Torah seems to suggest is the proper thing to do in business, as opposed to (usually smaller) amounts to members of your comunity, which are also sensitive to communal pressure to pay up, something those outside the community are not.
The Jews fueled the economy of every nation they have ever been welcome into. But even we couldn’t compete with the Draconian measures inflicted by the West upon Germany after WWI.
If your angry about that, talk to France and England, not the Jews.
comrades – when nutters / fascists / nazis / holocaust deniers / anti semites enter our sacred jewschool shrine – or for that matter ANY place of discourse and public debate DO NOT argue with them or attempt to rationally debate their arguments. Because by doing so you’re giving off the message that their arguments should at least be taken seriusly as legitimate intellectual positions even if they do seem a little extreme. The only time they should be debated is when you know 100 percent that you’ll win and that your victory will be popularly pereceived as a loss for their side. An example of such was the recent case against David Irving in the British Courts.
Ezra,
I am not quite sure he is exactly that, yet. Though PM’s statement “National Socialism only wanted peace and equality for the producing man” would signal we indeed have a troll on our hands.
As for Kosher meat abuses in the US it was at the largest glatt kosher slaughterhouse in the world, AgriProcessors, Inc. You can view the footage taken by undercover PETA agents here:
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/…
However some Rabbi have stepped up and claimed any inhumane slaughter is a violation of Jewish code.
http://www.humanekosher.com/de…
I still think captive bolt stunning before slaughter is better, but it seems Jewish people are stuck in their archaic ways.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Oa/co…
Needless to say I’m not eating kosher meat.
(ps – just because this site was advertised on my.yahoo.com doesn’t mean you’ve hit the big time)
Yishai, the road you are walking is paved with good intentions…
Pesch-Moses, indeed, it can be argued that thinking oneself better than anyone else is repulsive; alas it is the nature of most human beings. Often it is called the Ego. And it is DEFINITELY NOT unique to Jews.
“And how was that a delusion? I am open-minded enough to change my outlook if you can show some evidence Jewish people didn’t own a majority of banks and invented interest.â€
I doubt you really are that open-minded, for it is not that hard to check historical records and see that statement such as these are misleading. The Rothschilds might be incredibly rich and powerfully influential upon the decision making processes of the last three centuries, but they are by no means the only family involved. As seen by today’s multinationals, people who have power tend to exercise it to their own benefits, driven by the same urges mentioned above. They are not different, just more aptly located to influence politics. Indeed, the only people who have had as great an influence in ‘civilised’ (ahm) history are religious figures, such as Buddha, Jesus and Muhammad (hey, only one Jew!), outstanding leaders like Alexander and Ghandi (Ben Gurion? Na…); and thinkers such as Socrates, Patanjali, Lao Tse and Marks (one again). To say that this is a Jewish conspiracy is about as accurate as saying that people with beard are trying to take the world (at least five of the above)…
For starters, the history of ‘interest’ dates further back then even the time Moses was contemplating which plate should he touch – it is probably as ancient as herding:
“What gave the ancient Sumerians the idea of charging each other interest? Linguistic evidence provides a clue. In the Sumerian language, the word for interest, mash, was also the term for calves. In ancient Greek, the word for interest, tokos, also refers to the offspring of cattle. The latin term pecus, or flock, is the root of our word “pecuniary.” The Egyptian word for interest, like the Sumerian word, is ms, and means “to give birth.” All of these terms point to the derivation of interest rates as the natural multiplication of livestock. If you lend someone a herd of thirty cattle for one year, you expect to be repaid with more than thirty cattle. The herd multiplies — the herder’s wealth has a natural rate of increase equal to the rate of reproduction of his livestock. If cattle were the standard currency, then loans in all comparable commodities would be expected to “give birth” as well. The idea of interest seems to be a natural one for a pastoral society, but not so for other types of economies.â€
(notice Hebrew is not mentioned? More here: http://viking.som.yale.edu/wil…
And with regards to financing the second WW, it seems that Hitler was destined to go bankrupt in 1932, was he not saved by the Schroder banking family. Founded by Baron Rudolph Von Schroder (1858 – 1934), hardly a Jew, this family was involved in most of the darkest moves within the corridors of power in the last century, including the ‘Belgian Relief Commission’ And the ‘London Connection’. There is plenty of information available on the net (see couple below, but there are many more), some more credible than other, but the point is that trying to pinpoint a particular demographic to the machinations of war and power is futile. Yes there are Jewish names involved (like the Rothschilds and the Warburgs), but it is hardly a factor – There are many more names on those lists that are not, and if anything, the single most common factor one can detect is a connection to the ‘motherland’ – hey, have you ever thought that maybe there is German conspiracy to take over the world?!
So please spare me the eye-rolling. People are people. Some behave more elegantly, and some care more for their fellow human beings than others. This goes back to the question in posting: does stigmatizing a whole group of people is useful in achieving a solution, or even a better understanding of the problem. I dare vouch it does not. And you have the right – how wonderful – to disagree. But over-arching statements which lump millions of people at fault is base at best and often dangerous. Be it Jews, Muslims or vertically challanged gay whales, seeing the world in black and white leaves you in a bleak state of blurred misery. Why do it?
http://www.the7thfire.com/Poli…
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/…
One more comment and you’ll be rid of me forever. I didn’t know my true father until a few years ago who came from a line of English Jews. When my ancestor came to America he married and converted to Christianity. Ever since I found this out I had an interest in anything Jewish. So I did research after research. While I admit there are some pretty cool Jews out there 99% of them seem to have an arrogance which left me feeling hollow. How could God’s supposed chosen be so cocky?
No I can’t speak Hebrew even though I know the alphabet (or alephbet, lol) because Kabbalah interested me. When I tried talking to Jewish people they told me I couldn’t become Jewish since my Mother wasn’t. Fair enough, but what really chapped my hide was how every Zionist I talked to thought their sh*t didn’t stink. Especially at how most of them automatically stereotyped all Muslims as being terrorists. I was almost brainwashed into thinking this way until the Israeli terrorists starting coming out of the wordwork during the Gaza pullout. Even if the Jewish religion believes Satan isn’t evil merely the opponent, or criminal defense attorney, of God evil is still evil.
Lastly stop being so sensitive and branding the ANTI-SEMITIC label onto people just trying to state facts. This thread is proof of how out of context and emotional people can get and start pointing fingers. Look at what happened to Jewwatch.com. When it came up first when ‘Jew’ was googled I thought the world was going to end! I even got emotional and signed the petition from reading the stories from Zionists around the globe *sniff – sniff*. So Jewwatch was bumped down on the list. Then months later I actually took a look at jewwatch.com and was surprised to find it is a well put together page full of links to authentic sources. One even linked to E! Entertainment on a story about Jews controlling Hollywood and something Spielberg would never make a movie about – the Anti-Christian Holocaust by Russian Jews killing millions of Christians. I dunno maybe the makeup and lighting wasn’t right? All you have to do is ask your Rabbi about Trotsky, Lenin and Bolshevism.
Good bye forever.
http://jewwatch.com/jew-occupi…
http://www.davidduke.com/index…
OK just have to say komai is definitely in that 1%.
For real this time. Goodbye.
it’s just possible pesch is what he says he is, and if so, he’s exhibit a for not intermarrying, imagine if you marry a gentile and end up with him as your kid.
I’m so glad that freak is “gone forever”.
nice job guys. great. you always gotta get defensive when people say jews are elitist and arrogant. we are g-d damn it!
quit calling everyone a nazi!
oh, i’d side with the guy you kicked off over yishai. yeesh. where’s all the people who can identify with the rest of the world?
i won’t (side with PM over yishai). they both appear to be cretinim (een eebrew) to me. hilltop youth, give me a break. nice intelligent replies and posts from others though, david ezra komai. nice to know you are out there. just my 2c, i live in costa rica, and the ticos think they are superior to everyone else too. its boring, elitism, whether by jew or anyone else. love, roberto
by the way, great site, i will be coming back.
“…I go away, and you will seek Me. And you will die in your failures. Where I go,
you are not able to come. … You are from below; I am from above. You are from this
world, I am not from this world. … If you were the children of Abraham, you would do
the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me … Abraham did not do this. You do
the works of your father … If God were your Father, you would love Me … you are not
able to hear My Word. You are of your father the Diabolical One, and the lusts of your
father you wish to do. That one was a murderer from the beginning, and he has not
stood in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks
from his own, because he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I speak the truth
you are not persuaded by Me. … for this reason you do not hear, because you are not of God.”
I happen to agree with Pesch -Moses with regards to Germany. After WW1, wealthy Jewish people offered to “help” Germany get back on it’s feet. This they did by lending money at extreme interest rates, thereby financially crippling the German peoples. It is by this tactic that they subjugated and lorded over Germany for the years leading up to the advent of the National Socialist movement . Let’s get all the facts and not just blame Versaille, France and England.
Ok someone who prays for europes death and more absurdly thinks it is dying and a guy who claims the jews victimized the germans. Is there anyone moderating?
On the article itself. There is probably a reason it only exists in an email. It was probably made up. Allowing muslims into Europe is not a conspiracy against Jews. That is paranoia. The author is also perpetuating the notion that muslims are inherently evil which is truly the sort of thinking the did in the Jews of Europe.
testing 1, 2, 3
Okay this works. Hi everyone.
I have seen this article and it did strike a chord, particularly, after a recent visit to Amsterdam and the unofficial “dead Jews tour” Anne Frank Huis, Jewish Historich Museum, housed in four unused synagogue, former Jewish quarter, you get the picture.
For the first time I asked myself, “Is Europe impoverished for having killed it’s Jews? I mean how many authors, artists, teacher and scientists went to their deaths?” I had never looked at the Holocaust this way and, like many, had been raised to believe Jews are no different than others. I think the first years after the Holocaust people dealt with its affects on individual families and group identity.
However, killing almost all of ANY subgroup, should have an effect on the population. And since Jewish achievement is disproportionate to our numbers, you have, perhaps, an impoverished Europe.
My husband also believes the reason why Jewish achievement is high is becauses our population has been culled by centuries, oh, hell, millenia, of expulsions, inquisitions, progroms and massacres. Not sure I agree, I always chalked it up to the education thing. Any ideas?
The rabbis teach us that those who are good to the Jews will prosper, and that those who mistreat the Jews will suffer. We’re all reaping what was sowed in centuries of aniti-semitism, leading to the Shoa. Europe destroyed itself by destroying the Jews, and the rest of us haven’t learned anything from the past. Muslim terrorists are trying to destroy modern culture, and we’re helping them by not recognizing the extent of their hatred of Western values and culture. The U. S. doesn’t understand this, and sadly, neither does Israel. All of us are imperiling our survival.