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Kavod To Betzefer


They just signed with Roadrunner Records Germany. I really hope this supremely skilled band becomes rich and famous.I remember, before I was religious, when being Jewish was something to be apologetic about, that if a band I liked had someone Jewish in it, I got all happy. I’m sure this band is gonna make a lot of Jewish metalhead kids be like, “Heh, cool.”

An aside: I can’t believe I saw an Israeli kid wearing a Burzum sweatshirt today. Crazy shit.

73 thoughts on “Kavod To Betzefer

  1. HT, here is the full story. I was not born as a Jew, but I have basically observed Noachide laws all my life. I have been increasingly observant (by Jewish standards) for about a year. I and my wife are about to be fully converted as Conservative Jews (I suspect that Reform already see me as a Jew). When my wife and I married, we were both goyim. We will be remarried as observant Jews. We do and will follow Conservative halacha.
    Why are you laughing?

  2. “I remember, before I was religious, when being Jewish was something to be apologetic about, that if a band I liked had someone Jewish in it, I got all happy.”
    So before being ‘religous’ HT was ashamed. The fact that HT is damaged goods really explains a lot. Like, for instance, why HT took pleasure in Yisrael’s intermarrying (as HT believed at the time). I think a healthy orthodox-minded person would have been upset (or simply uninterested) by this knowledge. Taking pleasure in someone else’s misfortune is a sign of real personal weakness. Love, the Jewish Nigger.

  3. I hear they have really good Hash is the holy land, maybe HT should smoke some of it and calm down. However, remember to make tea or brownies with it becuase it is against halacha to smoke.

  4. Although, I still maintain that HT is a figment spawned by a far leftist’s idea of what a right wing nut should behave like. If not, its amazing how similar the right and left become when represented by the stupid and/or deranged. This ‘sand nigger’ thinks ya’ll run a racist site. I felt more welcome at LGF.

  5. there’s a difference between a black person and a nigger. That’s 1.
    2. dude, your analysis is way off bent.
    3. Conservative conversions don’t count.
    4. Those who cannot debate, defame.

  6. “Taking pleasure in someone else’s misfortune is a sign of real personal weakness.”
    Actually we all do it. But to gloat about it, that’s the root of HT’s issues. Which are too many to mention in the space of a comment box.
    “there’s a difference between a black person and a nigger. That’s 1.”
    How very Chris Rock kike (I mean, hell, if we can throw around sand nigger, nigger, why not be inclusive, right kike?)

  7. “Shtreimel, offensive, but well put.”
    Yeah, I might get banned for that shit. But f’it. I thought I prefered HT’s psychotic Jewish passion to Brown’s cool, removed conspiracy theories. But, and I can’t believe I’m going to type this, I miss Brown. At least he’s got respect and he tries to do his homework.

  8. no.
    if you kept the seven laws of Noah and stayed there, kavod.
    if you converted the only valid way – Orthodox, and lived that way, kavod.
    but since you’re doing it halfass and just living a lie,
    you’re a joke.

  9. yeh, that kind of sucks about the German thing, I’m with ya there. But with the tools they have, in the world they know, it’s still a big opportunity.

  10. man, shtreimel, I got under your skin, didn’t I?
    I’m glad you hate me so much. Anyone who tries to disrespect someone’s mother on his own site is really worth nothing in my eyes.

  11. “but since you’re doing it halfass and just living a lie,
    you’re a joke”
    Chris Rock:
    “Shit, there’s always a reason to slap somebody, you just don’t do it?”
    Why Chris, why?

  12. hey Dickforce, I’m glad you know so much about how a religious Jew thinks.
    BTW in all honesty, I have nothing against black people – I do apologize if I hurt your feelings with that.
    I mean, some things you have posted to me are repulsive and I think you’re disgusting, but about the black thing, I don’t make the habit of calling black people niggers – it was just to rile you easily offended people up.

  13. HT,
    Yeah, you got under my skin. No doubt about it. And it would seem I’m not the only one. I loved Jewschool. Told many of my friends/family to visit. Since you’re last few posts/comments, it’s gong the way of Ogrish and Stormfront combined. Mazel Tov.
    Hello Jewlicious.
    C’mon J, get that blog up already.

  14. ” shtreimel, I’d really like to know your idea of kiruv.”
    Whatever you’re doing, do the opposite. The rest is commentary.

  15. “there’s a difference between a black person and a nigger. That’s 1.”
    Then you are a nigger I suppose. And I am a black person? Maybe, like Sam, you don’t believe in the social construction “race”? I don’t really get it. Is there some sort of deconstructionist argument going over my head?
    2. dude, your analysis is way off bent.
    (homage to Mobius:) Umm, er, no dude, you, like, err, suck more.
    “3. Conservative conversions don’t count.”
    You defamed (rather than debated) Yisrael before you knew any details of the conversion…or if there was a conversion in the first place.
    “4. Those who cannot debate, defame.”
    Are you a drug addict? Seriously.
    If HT is a joke, a caricature, then the perpetrator of the joke is a kike (as not all Jews are kikes, of course). If HT is real, then you have my sympathy.

  16. “I don’t make the habit of calling black people niggers – it was just to rile you easily offended people up.”
    May I suggest experimenting in Harlem you piece of excrement.
    (I usually don’t compare human beings to shit, but…)

  17. no, there are low scummy black people who don’t do anything except scream how everyone owes them everything or like the NAAZIP (NAACP) which was started by Jews and now is one of the most Anti Semitic organizations in the world – who scream at jewish people that they demand to be restituted for slavery and those Jews weren’t even in the country at the time.. those niggers who slash tires in Crown Heights and kill Jews and then scream how it’s really the Jews’ fault for stealing all their money, those niggers who drove the Jew out of tens of New York neighborhoods like Brownsville, East New York and Harlem by violence and drugs – or Jesse Jackson who calls NYC Hymietown, those niggers should be lynched.
    But, normal black people who try to better themselves and have respect for themselves are good people.
    And a Jew is a Jew no matter what color he is.

  18. I don’t know you or what you are, I didn’t call you a nigger. I said the word sand nigger.
    And even if I do call you a nigger, I don’t see why the fuck you would care.

  19. HT, regarding, “those niggers should be lynched.” I asked why you are doing these thing to your brother’s site and you keep posting this trash. Your conduct is sufficiently offensive that I unfortunately will stop posting for now. I’ll check back some other time, and hopefully I will return to a less hateful place.

  20. haha if I really wanted to be nasty, it would be a good time to say, well, I’m not the right color for it, but I don’t mean it.
    it would just be the opportunity for a prime diss.
    I’m not gonna call you a nigger, especially because you said you’re a Jew. And if you’re not, like I said, if a black person is good and has respect for themselves and doesn’t hate Jewish people, I have nothing but respect.
    But as for your beliefs, you’re disgusting.
    And in any case, Yisrael had given me enough information to know that he had no right telling me how to be a Jew. The end.

  21. Quick, someone copy HT’s comments and post them on Stormfront so the world knows what Jews really think…

  22. “But as for your beliefs, you’re disgusting.”
    Please clarify, i.e. debate, rather than defame. Which beliefs of mine are disgusting?

  23. My God. Even if HT is a figment of Dan’s imagination, this has gone on too far, too long and it’s too disturbing.
    My last comment to HT will be this…I’ve heard Jews like you exist…I’ve read stories about ’em…and I didn’t believe them (because I never met one, until now).
    You’ve got some chest bangin’ to do my dear. And I wouldn’t wait to the Fall.
    Ciao.

  24. I’m actually embarrassed for Mobius. Who would have ever guessed his ‘family’ was so pathetic, nihilistic and fragmented.

  25. I’m not sure, I don’t remember, you were oogy though.
    Alright, lemme take it back. Your beliefs were disgusting. Not you.
    HEY SHTREIMEL, DON’T LET THE DOOR SLAM YOU IN THE ASS ON YOUR WAY OUT!!!!
    MOOOOHAHAHAHAHHAHA

  26. as a long time pro-wrestling fan I can appreciate a good heel when I see one ala Ric Flair, Terry Funk, The Fabulous Freebirds, etc. To paraphrase Lloyd Benson, HT- you are no Ric Flair, whooooooo!

  27. People around here need not to care so much about what other people say or think. It shows a lack of self-pride if words of one yo-yo will make you change your mind about yourself.
    I think, if anything, HT is showing a lesson many of you need to learn: if you’re so sure about yourself and what you believe in, the words of your detractors are meaningless.

  28. “I think, if anything, HT is showing a lesson many of you need to learn: if you’re so sure about yourself and what you believe in, the words of your detractors are meaningless.”
    I agree. HT isn’t that bad. For that matter, I don’t believe all Jews are kikes, but the ones that are, for example the ones that steal money from Arab babies should be gassed.

  29. I agree with a number of the posters above. Independent of the actual identity of Ms. Terror, she is the source of the worst hillul HaShem I have ever seen on this blog. As a somewhat liberal person, I am offended by Terror’s comments. As an orthodox Jew, though, I am simply ashamed. Just this past week, we read: “You shall not lift up the name of the Lord, your God, in vain, for the Lord will not hold blameless anyone who takes His name in vain.” I hope that all those who remain on this site will see Holy Terror’s comments as reflections of a confused individual and not of HaShem and his Torah. I have seen mentally unstable people, dressed as Jesus, drenched in fake blood, yelling biblical injunctions from the hoods of cars. Holy Terror’s ramblings and baitings reflect true Judaism no more than these Jesuses (Jesi?) reflect the teachings of mainstream Christianity. LaShem Shamayim, Holy Terror, please quietly mutter to yourself instead of dragging HaShem’s name through the mud publicly.

  30. I didn’t know what you thought is what Shamayim thinks…. and the true teachings of Christianity are that Jews are vipers…if you’ve ever read their NT…
    btw Dickforce, you know that the Arab word for a black person is synonymous with slave?
    hahahahahhah go stick up for them

  31. Mobius – could we have the option of a non-HT version of the blog? I feel like I just started enjoying this site when things started taking a tedious and shrill tone.

  32. I enjoy the traditional fascist method of argumentation by anecdote and vague reference, but could do without all the hatred and racial slurs.
    And I agree, it’s becoming less and less worthwhile to post on this blog with HT around spitting worthless bile all over the place.

  33. well I’ll make a deal. I won’t do any more racial slurs if all o y’all haters stop tryin to diss a nigga.

  34. Terror, you seem to understand neither the concept of chillul HaShem nor, surprisingly, the basic fashion in which we Jews relate to our holy texts. Time and time again, Jews are accused of something because, well, its in our Torah. And time and time again, I have to explain that our halakha l’maaseh comes not from the direct word as written in the Torah but from the oral law, the understanding of our Rabbis. Yet, you very naively take a quote from the Christian scriptures out of context and assume that that is what Christians think? Curious. As for desecration of HaShem’s name. I admit, there is a lot of junk thrown around in this comment section. But, when it is from a liberal or secular writer, guess what? It doesn’t at all reflect poorly on Judaism, Jews, the Torah, or HaShem. When someone who claims to be religious and even has the audacity to add “Holy” to their posting name throws around ethnic slurs, baits people, insults people, and generally acts in a horrendously rude and inappropriate way, that is chillul HaShem. And that is what you are doing.
    I am reminded of an article in which a religious Jew described a conversation with a secular Jew. The secular Jew commented on the arrest of orthodox Jews in Israel for counterfeiting money. The woman replied: “Wait a minute. If they were counterfeiting money, then by definition, they were not orthodox.” You Holy Terror, real or counterfeit right-winger, are not an orthodox Jew. A hope everyone here can recognize that.

  35. Mobius, please, for the sake of all those of us who are capable of carrying on a respectable conversation with others not like ourselves, ban HT from this site.

  36. Man, you’re pretty holy yourself.
    Holes in the head…what, you think that Christians don’t believe their own scriptures??!?!
    Take a gander…
    Matthew’s Jesus declares: “Beware of the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorns, nor figs from thistles, are they? Thus, every good tree bears good fruit, but the rotten tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-20; see also Luke 6:43-45).
    In these verses, Jesus vigorously affirms his opinion that what is good cannot possibly produce evil, and conversely, that what is evil cannot possibly produce good: “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit.” Viewed from this New Testament all or nothing perspective, Christianity cannot be considered good since so many wrongs have issued from it since its inception.
    To argue, as many Christian apologists do, that the evils resulting to the world in the wake of Christianity are not really of Christian origin is tantamount to claiming that the bad fruit growing on a tree were not produced by the tree. No amount of explaining can absolve Christianity from the innumerable wrongs stemming from the hegemony it has exercised over vast areas and peoples in the course of it tortuous history.
    Matthew also records Jesus as saying: “Not everyone who says to me: ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of the heavens, but he who does the will of my Father who is in the heavens. Many will say to me on that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name perform powerful works?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness'” (Matthew 7:21-23).
    Jesus’ above statements do not equivocate. It’s all or nothing. How does this apply to Christianity, which has spoken in the name of Jesus and in his name “performed powerful works?” Could Jesus possibly accept any group or individual that claims to be Christian? To be true to his own dictum that bad fruit can never be produced by a good tree, Jesus would disown and reject Christianity for all the evil it has perpetrated in his name. No Christian group or individual is exempt for all are the fruit of a bad tree. That is because many of the horrors Christians have subjected the world to are the direct result of Jesus’ teachings as found in the Gospels.

  37. Matthew’s Jesus declares: “Beware of the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorns, nor figs from thistles, are they? Thus, every good tree bears good fruit, but the rotten tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-20; see also Luke 6:43-45).
    In these verses, Jesus vigorously affirms his opinion that what is good cannot possibly produce evil, and conversely, that what is evil cannot possibly produce good: “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce good fruit.” Viewed from this New Testament all or nothing perspective, Christianity cannot be considered good since so many wrongs have issued from it since its inception.
    To argue, as many Christian apologists do, that the evils resulting to the world in the wake of Christianity are not really of Christian origin is tantamount to claiming that the bad fruit growing on a tree were not produced by the tree. No amount of explaining can absolve Christianity from the innumerable wrongs stemming from the hegemony it has exercised over vast areas and peoples in the course of it tortuous history.
    Matthew also records Jesus as saying: “Not everyone who says to me: ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of the heavens, but he who does the will of my Father who is in the heavens. Many will say to me on that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name perform powerful works?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness'” (Matthew 7:21-23).
    Jesus’ above statements do not equivocate. It’s all or nothing. How does this apply to Christianity, which has spoken in the name of Jesus and in his name “performed powerful works?” Could Jesus possibly accept any group or individual that claims to be Christian? To be true to his own dictum that bad fruit can never be produced by a good tree, Jesus would disown and reject Christianity for all the evil it has perpetrated in his name. No Christian group or individual is exempt for all are the fruit of a bad tree. That is because many of the horrors Christians have subjected the world to are the direct result of Jesus’ teachings as found in the Gospels.

  38. oopsie I’m sorry
    Answer: In the Book of Revelation there are seven letters to seven churches supposedly written by the heavenly Jesus. They appear in Revelation 2:1 through 3:22. In each letter the angel (messenger) of the specific church is addressed and, in turn, the church members are told that Jesus knows who they are and the level of their spirituality. We are concerned here with letters two (2:8-11) and six (3:7-13).
    In Revelation 2:9, Jesus is said to have written, “I know your works, tribulations and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.” In Revelation 3:9, Jesus is said to have written, “Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews, and are not, but lie–behold, I will make them to come and bow down at your feet, and to know that I have loved you.” Jews who do not accept Christianity are characterized as worshipers of Satan, hence, the expression “synagogue of Satan.”
    According to Paul’s definition of a “true” Jew, “he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God” (Romans 2:28-29). That is, the Christian notion of a “true” Jew refers to Jews and Gentiles who follow Paul’s concept of submission to belief in Jesus, not adherence to the Torah. Jews by birth or choice who do not believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior are classified as Jews of the “flesh” not “true” spiritual Jews. The author of Revelation declares that Jews of the “flesh” who do not become “true” Jews (that is, Christians) worship Satan and are destined to someday be subdued and come to bow down at the feet of Jesus’ beloved church.
    Is it any wonder that the expression “synagogue of Satan” in combination with John 8:44, where “the Jews” are characterized as descended from Satan, helped produce a portrait for faithful Christians of the “evil” Jew whose deeds on behalf of Satan took on ominous proportions? Is it any wonder that the church and its faithful followers sought to hasten the day when Jesus would fulfill his promise to “make them [the synagogue of Satan] come and bow down at your feet” (verse 9) by persecution of the Jews?

  39. you guys are getting so mad at this girl and then blaming her that she’s being evil
    anybody who feels guilty gets mad
    its about time you get mad
    to explain it simply
    she upsets you becasue you feel guilty and you know the ultimate truth

  40. is HT for real? she’s a joke, right? she doesn’t really exist? It’s a Luke Ford/Protocols parody, right? Tell me jewschool isn’t really jumping the shark, please!

  41. HT, considering you deleted my comment and the whole post, I’m posting it again. First, a message to Mobius: I’m not from the East Coast, and I’m not from Israel- I’m from Berkeley, CA, and you used to have a wonderful, thought provoking site. I may think your left-wing antics are distrubing, but I respect what you say, and will gladly, respectfully debate them.. I encouraged all my friends at Hillel and our Israel Action Committee to read this site. Now, until HT leaves, I’m going to actively encourage them NOT to read it. Enough is enough, this is just pure hate.
    And my orginal message to HT: ” I am Orthodox, as if that somehow makes me ‘better’ to make this point: I have never seen such a sick, caricaturish picture of an ultra-Orthodox Jew as you. I have tried not to judge, and I’m sure you’re going to go after me for this, but I’ve been following all that you’ve been writing, and I’ll tell you this: to some large extent, you are a terrible person. Maybe a good Jew, an observant Jew, machmir on everything you should be, but you have clearly lost sight of some larger Torah laws as Ve’ahavta L’rei’echa Kamocha- and ‘they started it’ or ‘they are haters’ simply doesn’t cut it. It is people like you that make most Jews wonder how ultra-Orthodox Jews can look in the mirror and not break down at the sight. Please stop writing, or, if you continue, stop making vicious ad hominem attacks. I cringe at the damage the vast majority of your later posts have made. Please think about what you’re doing. As an observant Jew, you should really be better than this.”

  42. Hey BearsForIsrael, Ve’ahavta L’rei’echa Kamocha does not apply to these characters, These are knowledgeable sinners. I’m afraid that you don’t understand the definition of Chillul Hashem.
    If you want I can back that up – don’t let your being uncomfortable stop you from telling the truth whether popular or not.

  43. yeh he did. what’s funny was, I didn’t mention anything about them being a bunch of hooting fudgepackers or anything like that, I just said that 1. there is completely nothing Jewish about Queer Valentines, – Valentine’s Day was characteristically a day of massacring Jews and the homosexual act is punishable by death in the Torah, that’s all I said.

  44. Conservatice conversions are quite often done completely according to halacha- it’s worth looking into on a case by case basis, but don’t knock them right of the bat, as many are done exactly like ortho ones.
    btw, a non-Jewish person who knows the halacha but doesn’t plan on following it is 1. technically allowed to convert 2. still jewish after the fact. The reason most batei din refuse to convert them, is that they don’t want the responsibility of making a person obligated in laws they def won’t keep
    Soooo many reasons why ppl should actually learn halacha– it’s utterly amazing what you dig up

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