Powell Resigns Over Sharon’s Free Ride?
JPost reports,
Outgoing US Secretary of State Colin Powell was asked to step down after telling President George W. Bush he wanted more power to confront Israel over the peace process, according to London’s Sunday Telegraph.
[…]“The clincher came over the Mideast peace process,” a recently-retired State Department official reportedly said. “Powell thought he could use the credit he had banked as the president’s ‘good cop’ in foreign policy to rein in [Prime Minister] Ariel Sharon and get the peace process going. He was wrong.”
Sort of confirms the theory that Bush is a better friend of Israel than Sharon.
Do a bit a research and you’ll notice that Bush does not initiate pressure on Israel. Believe it or not, the Israeli government uses the White House to pressure itself so that it can get doubtful politicians and the gullible media to follow in line. During Sharon’s term, Bush/Powell only opened up their mouth after they had been visited by Sharon, Olmert, Weisglass, or Olmert. Bush does not want this ‘seperation/retreat’ plan, but Sharon has suckered him into giving some support to it.
Powell, asta la vista baby.
Yeah. It totally fits Bush’s ideology of wanting Israel to become embroiled in a vast regional war so Christ can come again. He’s been pursuing that pretty well.
I’ll bet Sam also thinks the “da Vinci Codes” are nonfiction. No conspiracy theory is too ridiculous when the culprits are Christians, but if Muslims dance in public following a terrorist attack, any remark connecting Muslims to terror is simple bigotry, right?
Um, why give credibility to some State Department official who is probably already working, as we write, for WRMEA, who has the gall to blame Sharon for being the cause of delay in the peace process?
This article is fluff.
I don’t have a conspiracy theory. As far as anyone knows, Bush, like Tom DeLay, is a dispensationalist. Protestant dispensationalism believes the eschaton is imminent and involves a great clash in the Middle East. I assume that if you put such people in power they wouldn’t have much of an interest in “peace” in a region that they expect to be embroiled in conflict. Point one of evidence is that it has been reported that Bush got thousands and thousands of letters from evangelicals (who I’m aware aren’t exactly the same group as dispensationalists) just before that whole exchange of letters with Sharon, asking him to prevent the emergence of a Palestinian state.
Of course, I’m not entirely serious. Bush still pays lip service to the notion of Palestinian national rights. We’ll just have to see whether he puts in any effort in the second term. The first term doesn’t provide much hope that he will.
sam is a good example of the failure of our educational system; the failure of the left; and the failure of judaism.
“As far as anyone knows, Bush, like Tom DeLay, is a dispensationalist.” sam, as far as anyone knows, bush believes the world is flat; that jews are angels in another form; that buddhist murder xtians as part of their religious ritual: we dont know because bush has never spoken of those matters, so sams position states that if bush is silent on an issue, we can therefor logically assume whatever we want as to his views, clearly sam has never learned logic in school.
” evidence is that it has been reported that Bush got thousands and thousands of letters from evangelicals” so getting letters from evangelicals allow sam to draw the most preposterous conclusions about bush; clearly sams leftist slant has caused his brain to turn to mush and made him an illogical idiot.
“Of course, I’m not entirely serious.” somehow sam has never been taught that jews look at a persons deeds not their words, and that those who help jews are good people, not the enemy.
sam, if i had any respect for your thinking or your logic, however much i might disagree with your posiltions, i would not consider you the 50 iq mentally crippled fool that you are: you are an embarrassment to your school, your family, your religion, and your country: again, not beccause of your views, but by virture of your inept, infantile, pathetic manner of stating your case. go back to the 4th grade and learn something.!
“As far as anyone knows, Bush, like Tom DeLay, is a dispensationalist.”
As far as anyone knows. Great standard to judge by. What can’t you claim with that standard?
For more background on the Bush/Dispensationalism relationship (or lack thereoff)… go find the following articles…
1. The Times (London), July 17, 2004, Saturday, Features; Times Magazine 22, 5024 words, The town of the rising son, Peter Stothard
2. Financial Times (London, England), June 12, 2004 Saturday, FT WEEKEND MAGAZINE – Books Essay; Pg. 26, 2924 words, One man and his god George W. Bush kicked the bottle and found redemption in a very singular conversion. But his form of American Evangelicalism enjoys massive popular appeal and, arguably, influences policy, By JONATHAN STEINBERG
My $0.02… Whether or not Bush himself is or isn’t a dispensationalist, elements of his base certainly are… a recent Gallup poll suggests 46% of Americans describe themselves as ‘born-again’ or evangelical… a 1999 Newsweek poll suggested that 71% of evangelicals said they believed the world would end in a battle at Armageddon… (granted not all evangelicals/’born-agains’ are republican [e.g. Jimmy Carter]… and not everyone who believes in Armageddon is a Christian Zionist…. but the numbers are informative)… Durring Bush’s first term he pandered to this ‘base’ of his movement, and the unification of his faith with his foreign policy/war on terror has been well documented and substantiated… It would therefore not be such a leap of faith (pun intended) to believe that Bush’s Israel policy is at least informed by a dispensationalist worldview…
And one last thing…
Avi… let me add my name to the growling list of voices asking that you tone down the rhetoric. Your flair for the ad hominem does nothing but diminish the sometimes valid points that you express…
Our tradition teaches us that the 2nd Temple was destroyed because of Sinas Hinam… So next time you have the urge to flame someone… please don’t.
^#%@$^@#!! do i like to flame? NO. would i much rather engage in civil discussion over serious issues? OF COURSE. but what to do when faced with complete idiocy, or in some cases, even worse, vile antisemitism (eg asaf, brown)? would you try to have a polite discussion with david duke, or just smack him down? sadly, the most effective response seems to be the smackdown.
You’d think Secretary Powell could have put in a word or two for recognition of Israel when he met yesterday with world leaders in Sharm el-Sheik, including those of Arab League and OIC member nations. Maybe Condi. Maybe next time….
Only here does talk of Powell-Rice-Sharon-Bush (somehow) cross over into Christian dispensationalism. Some of you guys amaze me. This says a lot about peoples’ desire to simplify that which they don’t (or care not to) understand (i.e., US mideast policy), than it does of their ability to carry out a careful, dispassionate analysis.
These same folks will probably see some Freemason-AmericanUniversity-ArabLeague when not one, but 3 Arab states hold internationally supervised elections within the next 4 years.
Democracy is the mideast’s best, and some say only, chance to avert war — and/or a wider, pan-Arabic totalitarian regime within the next 10 years, neither of which is good for Israel, or the West proper.
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[ Oops, me bad… left out a crucial word in the above text. ]
These same folks will probably see some Freemason-AmericanUniversity-ArabLeague CONSPIRACY when not one, but 3 Arab states hold internationally supervised elections within the next 4 years.
lerxst: “Your flair for the ad hominem does nothing but diminish the sometimes valid points that you express…”
Good luck. These freeperlach have only one tool in the box. Check it out….
“but what to do when faced with complete idiocy, or in some cases, even worse, vile antisemitism (eg asaf, brown)? would you try to have a polite discussion with david duke, or just smack him down? sadly, the most effective response seems to be the smackdown.”
See how avi goes right for asaf, brown even when they aren’t involved in the discussion. If they didn’t exist, it would be necessary for avi to invent them. The freeperlach have no real arguments, only attitude.
J: “I’ll bet Sam also thinks the ‘da Vinci Codes’ are nonfiction. No conspiracy theory is too ridiculous when the culprits are Christians, but if Muslims dance in public following a terrorist attack, any remark connecting Muslims to terror is simple bigotry, right?”
Who are you “engaged” with here, J? Who even mentioned what you’re whining about now?
avi: “sam is a good example of the failure of our educational system; the failure of the left; and the failure of judaism.”
Don’t hurt yourself overreaching or anything, avi.
You make it too easy, Zionista.
“Who are you “engaged” with here, J? Who even mentioned what you’re whining about now?”
I’m ‘engaged’ with the second post on this thread. Was that too hard to figure out? Did you actually bother to READ the thread before you accused me of “whining”?
By the way, you may not realize this, but some people consider it insulting to be accused of “whining”. It’s kind of odd that you chose to throw in a random insult in a thread complaining about ad hominem attacks, but I doubt you’ve ever actually felt that the rules you propose for others be applied to you.
As usual, your’e having trouble understanding what the conversation is about. Why don’t you quickly change the subject and dump a 1500 word article on us (consult your handlers first, of course)? It beats reading your painful and unsuccessful attempts at thinking.
Um. Thanks to lerxst for bothering to dig up a couple of articles substantiating my feeble attempt at humor in the second post on this thread.
And thanks to avi for hyperventilating at the slightest provocation. Maybe if I just think of the right thing to say, he’ll actually go comatose.
Jeez, people.