What’s up with jewishleaders.com?
what’s up with jewishleaders.com? Is it Conservative, Orthodox or Reform — and why doesn’t it say?
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whois lookup … site is owned by Michael Kreitenberg. google lookup reveals nothing.
Does it matter what movement it is part of? Okay, if you’re worried about brainwashing, then I suppose, but this whole “movement” business is foolish. Talk about unnecessary walls and pigeonholing people.
From the users perspective, you are correct. From the providers standpoint however, the approach(es) ought to be mentioned.
Question #11 in the application suggests a more traditional bent. The two clues are “born Jewish” and “if no, please explain”:
11. Was your mother born Jewish? Yes No
      Was your father born Jewish? Yes No
If no, please explain:
Though since they have chosen pictures to illustrate the website where the collegiate men aren’t obviously wearing yarmulkes, they appear to be trying to reach a more liberal demographic. (The students pictured might be, since sometimes its hidden dependent upon the angle of the photograph…but they still selected pictures where it’s less obvious)
we’e really getting desparate aren’t we? i bet the muslims don’t have to pay to recruit.
Though I generally feel it’s important to stop with the labels, when an organization has zero affiliations, I get suspiscious; and yes, this is because of fear of brainwashing.
The sight itself mentions Rabbi Mordechai Kreitenberg as contact person. A quick google of him connects him to Ohr Sameach (Orthodox yeshiva), and also teaches Talmud to men in Yosemeite park, through a program called Heritage Retreats. (heritageretreats.org)
It’s pretty clear to me this is an Orthodox sponsored program with a very specific agenda – bring in unaffiliated Jews and turn them on to Judaism in an exciting social atmosphere. Same deal as Aish Hatorah and all the others.
To be completely honest you should say that it looks like a Kiruv program (probably affiliated with Ohr Sameach).
Kiruv joints have a habit of claiming to be the only truth and also that they have no agenda other that teaching Jews about Judaism when they really pushing people into their own brand of Orthodoxy. So why not be upfront about it?
Kiruv joints have a habit of claiming to be the only truth and also that they have no agenda other that teaching Jews about Judaism when they really pushing people into their own brand of Orthodoxy.
Heh … as opposed to all of those Jewish outreach programmes who claim to have a sneaky agenda, then carefully lay out all of the different interpretations of Judaism out there before timidly laying out the approach they kind of think might be a little bit better than all the others?
8Opus, if this run by Orthodox Jews and affilated with a Kiruv Yeshiva, then minimally they should note that fact on the Jewishleaders.com website.
Um, duh. My point is that failing to do so is neither surprising nor unique — against your implication that it was (Kiruv joints have a habit…).